Question:
Did you know that 80% of our laws are made in Brussels?
trish
2008-06-08 08:50:35 UTC
and we have no power to reject them?

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1024863/Like-gold-coin-dunghill-truth-EU.html

Excerpt:

But his clear, hard message was that 80 per cent of our laws are now made in Brussels, and Parliament has no power to reject or amend them.

If you wonder why our Post Offices are all closing, it’s thanks to an EU directive. So is the increasingly hated Data Protection Act. So are Home Improvement Packs and fortnightly bin collections.
23 answers:
2008-06-08 15:06:34 UTC
Yes...Even the Government now admits that over half its major laws, and 80% of ALL laws now originate in Brussels,with no law passed in Brussels ever being successfully overturned by Parliament.



For those who doubt the truth,perhaps you should educate yourself.....



Post Offices....EU Directive 97/67/EC

http://ec.europa.eu/internal_market/post/legislation_en.htm



Data Protection Act...(EU Directive 95/46/EC)

The DPA implements an EU Directive (the Data Protection Directive 95/46/EC)

http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/routledg/cirl/1997/00000011/00000001/art00004

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getAllAnswers.do?reference=E-2008-1884&language=EN

http://www.kwtl.co.uk/data_protection/index.php?tag=European+directives



HIP's are a requirement of the EU Directive on the Energy Performance of Buildings. (EPCs) EU directive 2002/91/EC, the energy performance of buildings directive, requires member states to introduce measures that require energy performance certificates to be made available when buildings are constructed, sold or rented out. Private rentals are included in the scope of the directive, which must be fully implemented by January 2009.



http://europa.eu/scadplus/leg/en/lvb/l27042.htm



The Landfill Directive (1999/31/EC, which was adopted by the European Union in 1999, is beginning to drastically change the way the UK handles waste. The directive was brought into force in the UK on June 15 2002 as the Landfill (England and Wales) Regulations 2002, and since then it has been introduced bit-by-bit.



http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:31999L0031:EN:HTML
noeusuperstate
2008-06-08 10:58:18 UTC
Yes.

Following all the treaties, each new treaty has singed over further powers. The latest includes even more qualified majority voting the translation of which is that Brussels can impose laws on the UK even if the UK votes against.

But for a long time law made in Brussels has been passed through on the nod here without proper debate because they don't want to draw attention to who is really deciding our future and the fact that it is not Westminster.



In the end we will get rid of Westminster one way or the other. In surrender to Brussels in absolute terms or as a result of a violent revolution which will end with extremists in power in the UK. Then God help who ever was on the losing side.

Think Zimbabwe as an example of how the British electorate would be treated.
2016-12-20 19:54:17 UTC
Brussels could be the capital of Belgium and may be the key seat of the Belgian Royal Family and, also the capital of the European Union and if you wish to know it then this is the place hotelbye . Brussels is an incredibly small, easy-going, and human-sized town for many their importance. Unlike anthers city using their hordes of tourists, Brussels is Belgium's principal financial and instructional hub, which gives the city an even more workaday sense than different towns. Here, in Brussels, if you'd choose to visit, you will get a proper sense for Belgian life, specially its excellent cafe and café culture. Even though Brussels might not need the star attractions of other Belgian villages, the capital has plenty of to help keep guests occupied for a day or two with a clutch of world-class museums and art galleries, in addition to quirkier views such as the Atomium, and some amazing remnants of old architecture in the old town quarter.
Fifi L'amour
2008-06-08 09:12:43 UTC
Okay. Which laws are these specifically? It's not the EU which is closing Post Offices. It's the fact that they are too expensive to run and are not making a profit. The Post Office is a business ffs, it has to make a profit. Likewise, fortnightly bin collections are just another way for local councils to save money - nothing to do with the EU at all.

The Home Information Packs are a piece of UK legislation, and the Data Protection Act that we have in this country is not actually strict enough for European standards and has actually been narrowed down from what is was.

And the UK parliament has a lot of say over EU legislation and how it applied in this country. Most EU legislation is not actually applicable in Britain until we have passed our own law confirming it.

It amazes that people will just blame Europe for everything without bothering to find out the facts - it's actually our own government that is doing us over.

Then again, look where you got this information from - the Mail on Sunday. A paper that has never been known to exaggerate or leap to conclusions to try to scare the public. Get your facts straight and start reading a decent newspaper.
2008-06-09 17:01:54 UTC
You have to be careful using Mail/Mail on Sunday as a source. They have always pandered to the 'Little Briton 'mentality.I agree there is a good reason to be concerned about the role Europe now plays in national issues.The agenda ( not hidden any more ) is a European state. The European Constitution was shot down in France and Holland but is now been regurgitated as the Lisbon Treaty yet nobody but the Irish are getting the chance to vote on it. I am not anti-European but I am very concerned where the EU seems to be heading. I hope Ireland votes no, maybe this would send a message and make the powers that be give all citizens a say in their own future.
2016-05-25 12:34:34 UTC
EU publish directives and such and a country decides how to implement the goals that was outlined in directive. But you also have regulations which do become a law. But still every member state is given some freedom to how implement this laws... This is just skewed fact. Like the banana myth and other similar. Frankly I don't know why you Brits dislike EU that much. And why are so many skewed facts about EU coming from UK...
SJM
2008-06-08 11:19:40 UTC
I'm not sure if that statistic is necessarily correct, but whatever the percentage is the only reason that laws passed in Brussels are adopted into UK law is because the UK parliament opted to join the EU in the first place. And the people that put the UK parliament are the people of the UK. Therefore, if you want to point fingers...
fatface
2008-06-08 11:55:59 UTC
OMG - What does it take to make some of you understand what the Federalist in Brussels are really up to?

Everything Trish said is true.

Even if you choose not to believe it - surely it is indisputable that Brussel has not had its budget signed off for upteen years due to 'irregularities'.

And any whistle blower is sacked (by our own dear Neil 'Gravy Train' Kinnock no less).

Is that an acceptable way to run a country? Our own MPs may not be whiter than white but at least we can sack them - unlike the Europe mob.

Wake up England - our time is running out.
2008-06-08 09:38:48 UTC
No matter how many laws are passed in Brussels that apply to the UK the question is, just how did we let it happen and is it too late to escape, is there a political party that doesn't want to fling us in to the European melting pot and sell us out, is there a political party that is going to say Britain first and take care of our own problems before we start throwing money away overseas to lost causes?

FK I hope so.
Veritas
2008-06-08 10:16:52 UTC
Agreed. The reason that most of us are not aware is because our Government keeps it quiet. Why? so the EU doesn't become even more unpopular in the minds of the UK citizens. Why? because they want the best possible chance of our not rejecting the EU Constitution, sorry, Treaty.



There you have it. According to one answer, however, it is, yet again, all the fault of the Mail. I suppose it is, in the sense that it points these things out to us, whereas, all other media outlets seem to want to keep it quiet.
Redmonk
2008-06-09 08:43:57 UTC
Hi Trish,



Yes your absolutely right, it is difficult for New Labour and other mainstream tribal voters to comprehend exactly what is happening to this country because they cannot believe their party would betray them in this way but what you say is not the end of it; Miliband has ordered a secret police to be trained in Italy, a multinational force that can go to any EU country to quell unrest. In our case just in case the English wake up and make moves to remove themselves from the state. This force will be used if the army or police refuse to interfere in political democracy , so we will end up with foreign troops on our land policing us.



That to me is the last straw.



ATB Red
2008-06-08 12:40:55 UTC
Do you mean laws like;



European Copyright.

Economic governance.

International patent and trademark law.

European social security law.

Healthcare law.

Competition law.

The European Convention on human rights.

Discrimination in the workplace law or any other of the laws from which we actually benefit, or just the Daily Mail rantings on the shape of Bananas or length of Cucumbers?



You really need to broaden your horizons and stop reading Tory propaganda rags.
2008-06-08 09:01:45 UTC
I'm not surprised. The Lisbon Treaty gives the EU the power to make decisions on immigration to the UK, and asylum seekers. Our fate lies in the hands of Ireland and I hope the Irish vote the right way on June 12th.
dave t
2008-06-08 09:06:20 UTC
The day I look to the Mail for balanced views on the EU will be a cold day in that place that Yahoo will censor.

From a legal standpoint laws and directives are different things.

They still have no control over our foreign policy, jail sentencing, gun laws, inheritance laws, which side of the road we drive on, speed limits, drinking laws etc etc.

However they have given all citizens, sorry subjects, written legal human rights for the first time in history as well as the working time directive which means you can't be forced to work more than 48 hrs a week and have the right to days off and paid holidays.
alan h
2008-06-08 11:55:57 UTC
No. Because it is not so. 0ver 80% of our laws predate the EC.
2008-06-08 11:33:38 UTC
100% of the rubbish posted on Yahoo comes from the Daily Mail and the Mail on Sunday.
2008-06-08 09:01:14 UTC
I think we should just all stop following them.



They can't lock us all up.
Rainbow Dash
2008-06-08 09:01:30 UTC
WELL I NEVER I'M GONNA GO TO SLEEP NOW THAT I KNOW THAT 80% OF OUR F*CKING LAWS ARE MADE IN BRUSSELES
2008-06-09 03:49:52 UTC
I would not be at all surprised!!
2008-06-08 09:01:27 UTC
no I did not.
2008-06-08 08:55:06 UTC
There is no proof to substantiate this. It is one person's opinion.
iballica
2008-06-08 09:00:07 UTC
no
goldleader272000
2008-06-08 09:11:23 UTC
o.k.


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