I can't find these quotes, can anyone help?

Question

After reading a few answers from 'Wolfie' and others I went to the BNP website to collect a few quotes to use on one of my own websites but I couldn't find them. Can anyone help me find the following details from the BNP site?

1. I cant find the bit where they say white people are a superior race
2. I cant find the bit where they say BNP councillors or MPs will refuse to represent non-white constituents.
3. As the BNP are supposed to be Nazis, I can't find anything that suggests they support hitler or hate jews
4. I have looked everywhere but cant find the bit about turning the UK into a fascist dictatorship.

The only bits I can find seem to contradict all of the above. So can you help me find those bits you keep quoting? It would really be a big help for the article I am writing in support of my local Conservative candidate.

Or did you just make it all up or take the word of some other communist?

Thanks in advance.

Answer 1

Then you are deaf, dumb, and wilfully blind. The BNP website is full of ads for racist publications. Excalibur, the BNP merchandising arm, is run by a self-confessed white supremacist who was born in Southern Rhodesia called Arthur Kemp. His own magnum opus, the four volume "March of Titans" is supposedly a history of the white race. I cannot blame you if you haven't read it as it is rather turgid in style and is rather badly researched. But this is only one such racist publication.



https://excalibur.bnp.org.uk/acatalog/Race_and_Science.html



As for supporting Hitler and hating Jews I suggest you read Griffin's own publication on Jews in the media and check out what conventions he is attending in the USA and Europe in the coming months. By their friends ye shall know them.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJSMNwqPdB4



Any party that wants to limit democracy, and the last time I checked a BNP manifesto on the site it did, can rightfully be construed as being fascist. If David Cameron thinks they are Nazi thugs does that make him a Communist in your book?



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5395358/David-Cameron-attacks-fascist-BNP.html



I appear to know more about the BNP and its website than you, Mark B. You are not unintelligent but please do a little research before making assertions that are blatantly untrue. As for writing articles for your local Conservative Party candidate - care to name him so we can verify your claim?

Answer 2

I'm not going to waste my time giving links for you to dismiss as lies, irrespective of their source, when you feel that the BNP website is reliable.



Hairyman, Shevek and Guyzers have presented all the evidence you need.



But I'm concerned about the amount of time that you spend defending and promoting the "Nazi thugs" in the BNP, when you claim to be a Conservative supporter, and preparing an article for your local candidate. You do realise that you are working to have elected as PM, David Cameron, a "self confessed member of Red Fascist group UAF?" And the "Nazi thugs" here are his words!





I don't doubt that you are writing an article in support of your local Conservative candidate.



I doubt very much that your local Conservative candidate has solicited this article; yet knows he / she will receive this article; or indeed will want to use this article!



EDIT: Could anyone out there translate Redmonk's nonsense into English, please?



I got the bit about "you cant have the SWP or UAF without supporting the violence connected to those orginisations".



How to explain it so Redmonk can understand?

Let's try "YES YOU CAN". It is perfectly possible to sympathise with the aims of an organisation, but to not support some of their tactics or methods.



In my case I don't support the SWP. I support the aims of the UAF, but feel they should control and remove those who go beyond peaceful protest. Now Redmonk, is that simple enough for you to understand? Or do you need it in pictures?



I presume that you manage to support the BNP, without subscribing to their race-hate and their violent activities then? Oh, of course - Redmonk doesn't have to be consistent!

Answer 3

Hi, here's a quote from Griffin's pamphlet entitled Mind-Benders i found on some white supremacist website. Just google that and you can find it too.



"The Jewish presence in the press is not as all-pervading as it is in the broadcast media. But such is the cowardice of the vast majority of the intellectual prostitutes known as journalists, that it seems that Organised Jewry is able to impose its line on the British press by rather more remote control than in the case of television. Having said which, the number of Jews in key positions in the tangled web of newspaper ownership and production is still out of all proportion to their numbers in the British population as a whole."



The BNP don't talk about Jews as much as they used to as Muslims are the scapegoats of choice at the moment. Also you can go to youtube and write Nick Griffin KKK and you can then see Mr Griffin explain to his redneck cracker pals exactly how he's going to use terms like 'identity' instead of 'racial purity' in his attempt to con the British public, we'll see if that's worked at all come the general election.



You're right that the BNP website doesn't state that it's a fascist party, that's because they're lying to us. Just like Nick Griffin said they were going to. What they do say on the website is that they can cut any number of taxes, improve public services, pay for national service and pay for people to emmigrate. They don't say where the money's coming from though, that's because they're lying again. But then again, as Mr Griffin pointed out in Mind Benders the only reason i don't think like him is that i've been brainwashed by international jewry's media machine.

Answer 4

Hi Mark, I see you have got over your little lapse then (Nigel Farage's burst to the new EU president) welcome back.



I don't think you will find those quotes because they are quotes to be hand fed to the politically illiterate in order to bring the BNP to its knees. Guess what? liberal propaganda is now so bad they don't even believe their own crap.



Edit Hairy; Thanks for pointing that out, you know what its never to late.



ATB Red



Edit Mark: Hey, Mark, According to some, supporting the UAF and SWP thugs is more preferable, like hell it is, as I have said often to one of those on this forum that openly support the Stalinist thugs, you cant have the SWP or UAF without supporting the violence connected to those organisations.



But do these left wing activists (that's what they are) disconnect themselves form these Nazi styled groups of anti free speech wannabes. Well just look at the left wing rhetoric and decide for yourself.



ATB Red



Edit Sceptic:

Oh but I am consistent Scep I don't support violence full stop, I don't believe in violent organisations like the SWP,UAF or EDL roaming our cities, towns, villages and streets using a cause to justify violence. You haven't got your head round that yet, have you? You know I'm right, so, do the right thing and join me on this issue as I have suggested you do many times.



RTG POE

Answer 5

1. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/jun/14/bnp-andrew-brons-mep-racist

2. Can't find anything on this after a 15 min search

3. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/may/31/bnp-european-elections-facebook-expose

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Griffin

4. http://www.whatnextjournal.co.uk/Pages/Latest/BNP2.html



Shevek - now THAT is an answer.



EDIT: You use the 'that source is just lies' excuse all the time, without actually producing evidence to suggest it is. The Guardian may be left-leaning, but if it printed lies about the BNP, the BNP could take them to court, and the quotes and articles would be removed from The Guardians site. But they haven't. Also - the Wikipedia article contains hundreds of sources, including the BNP site, Simon Darby's site, and The Telegraph.



Still waiting for you to name your Conservative Candidate??

Answer 6

It's interesting to note that prior to the seizure of power in Germany by the nazi's there was no mention of the mass murder of Jews, communists, certain religious groups, people with mental health and physical problems, etc. in their manifesto's. Indeed, the nazi's failed to mention that there would be no more elections after Hitler took power.



Visionaries such as Rosa Luxemburg understood the dangers very early and Trotsky was able to see the horrors of fascism in his lifetime. Neither of them, however, could have imagined the level of barbarism that was the nazi regime.



There are fascist party's around the world who seek political legitimacy by hiding their true politics and one such group is the BNP here in the UK. It's no surprise to me, however, that you fail to understand the true nature of the BNP. After all, your grasp of mainstream politics is scant, to say the least!



Edit: I should have added that your understanding of extra-parliamentary politics is non existent. Mark, hurling abuse at people who do not agree with you doesn't exhibit superior knowledge...it merely exposes you for the ill advised and politically naive individual that you so clearly are. Hairyman and Shevek_v, (who obviously have more patience with your right wing ranting than I have), went out of their way to furnish you with examples of why the BNP are a fascist, racist organisation. To ignore this evidence, and try to pass it off as anecdotal merely exposes your ignorance further!

Answer 7

dont forget their bible the 2001 census when they want to fact us about numbers of immigrants, their information is only 10 years out of date and not adjusted for projected growth. i dont bother answering liberals questions i basically ignore the whole lot of them and ive a good lot of them blocked. its not that i dont respect them but i just cant be bothered with them and their lies (and the suspensions i keep getting) if the bnp were slightly even racist or pro nazi i certainly wouldnt vote for them, i dont need someone to tell me who i shouldnt vote for. its my right to vote for who i like, groups like the uaf have no right to exist and use public money to spread their hatred but at the same time give sanctuary to those who endorse violence against the state. if anybody digs deep enough they will find dirt, but if i was on the left i wouldnt be in a hurry to protect somebody who had a child bride. strange how the left call that their culture and must respect it where as most people would call it paedophilia





hmm, seems a lot of pro peadophiles are logged on

Answer 8

What do you expect from the masters of disinformation?



I.e the far left.



@ Shev, would you agree or not that the Soviet Union spread lies?



Do you not agree that the Soviet Union killed millions of their own civilians?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAh5mfkuAXk



Do you agree that small nations like Finland, fought & died to defend their nation from mass murdering communists?



I know your ethics are in the right place but please do not insult me or the UK electorate.

Answer 9

Marxists are notorious liars. That's why Orwell wrote about "newspeak." Here a lot of them call themselves "liberals," then spout very anti-liberal policies.