Question:
Is the missing ship story like a plot out of a James Bond movie?
anonymous
2009-08-16 03:28:10 UTC
I'm surprised that the missing ship THE ARCTIC SEA, has hardly raised more than an eyebrow here in Britain. A vessel carrying a million pounds worth of 'timber' hardly seems worth hijacking. Unless of course, it was carrying 'something else'..... So, last radio contact was in the English Channel, then hardly anything else is known. Latest news, a ransom has been set for £1m.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6797778.ece

What on Earth is going on here? Can you give me some ideas of what else might be going on? Was the ship carrying actually NUKES, or secret weaponry? Why were so many Russian navy vessels deployed to find it - including a nuclear submarine? Or am I just a conspiracy theorist that should know better?
Seventeen answers:
anonymous
2009-08-24 02:56:39 UTC
You are very intelligent, you understand that the secret is kept by Russian spies who want to take control of the entire ship's cargo, but James Bond prevent him.





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The Dentist
2009-08-16 07:05:07 UTC
An intriguing story indeed.



My theory is, that the timber was off-loaded at anyone of a dozen places, even maybe more likely transferred to another cargo ship when it rendezvoud mid Atlantic 3 days ago. A N Korean submarine (recently purchased from the French) also arrived and was loaded with stolen Russian nuclear warheads (the real cargo of the Arctic Sea). The Arctic Sea was then scuttled which is why they cannot find it. The nukes are now on route to North Korea (under water), and when they arrive they will be loaded onto their new missile systems and targeted to West coastal cities in N America. Test firring will begin all being well in 3 weeks time when an air burst will erupt over the Pacific some 400 miles West of San Fransisco and a blast more than 50 times greater than Hiroshima will be observed, though no loss of life will occur. Then N Korea will begin their wicked death threats upon the West. The reason the Russians are frantically trying to find this vessel is because their own nukes have been stolen and it could ultimately drag them into a nuclear exchange with the USA and her allies.
AngryCat
2009-08-16 07:26:29 UTC
You are a conspiracy theorist.



This ship had no protection: who's thought that somebody would want to still wood? So the ship could be easily hijacked.

But it has 15 people on board. so the kidnappers can ask really big ransom for their life.To avoid a big scandal the ship owner will have to pay it. And since nobody knows for sure where the ship is, the criminals don't have to worry about the official forces storming them.

So many vessels are searching for it because now it's a matter of the national prestige to find it and free the crew. The submarines carry really good location systems by the way.



Sorry to say it, but stories like the one you've imagined truly happen just in spy movies.
Legio Patria Nostra
2009-08-20 05:25:20 UTC
good day,



if you read the news you will see that russia sent 4 cargo planes capable of carrying 40 tons each to pick up the crew.

that a lot of plane and a lot of fuel for a bunch of crewmen.

Now the crew are interrogated by the russians in Moscow. Bad news for them!!



I think that the story is basically an arm deal gone very wrong.



The russians load the vessel with weapons for algeria government .

they load timber on top of it.for the good look of the ship

the russian mafia decide to get their hand on the weapons because they have difficulties in accessing large quantities of medium to large size weapons.

The russian mafia send a commando to board the ship but the the crew has the time to send a mayday for high jacking

the vessel keep going running south toward bay of Biscayne and north africa or west africa.

while the trip keep going the russian government takes contact with the russian mafia and together they try to get out of this mediatic nightmare.

The mafia put a fake ransom request to the ship operator for the show.

The french locate the boat outside of Cabo verde



the boat is unloaded of it's cargo which is flown back to russia

the crew goes to jail as being part of the operation.



the russian government reputation does not suffer too much and everybody is happy.



if you look at novels being written in the coming month I am pretty sure that you will find one which will give you the unofficial clue about this joke.
Carpathian
2009-08-18 10:00:19 UTC
That something else could have been DIAMONDS- A heist was recently done in London with millions of dollars worth of diamonds

stolen in broad daylights. Just think, a group of armed men jump the ship, tie and manhandle the crew and then leave. That is my conclusion but I may be wrong.



Why not, is probably easier to transport diamonds by sea than through an airport or any other way or means.
b'stardoh
2009-08-16 03:51:07 UTC
Yeah, it's not like a bunch of pirates are going to board a timber ship from Finland is it? The kind of timber we're talking about here is of the cheap pine variety, grown in vast quantities on timber farms in Finland for the paper trade.



So shove the pirate idea aside.



The ship was heading for Algiers (or another North African country). It's got enough fuel on-board for that trip. It cannot spend any time wandering about in the Atlantic trying to hide.



Sooner or later the ship has got to dock for bunkering - refuel etc.



The last time it was hear on the radio was by the UK Coastguard who logged it somewhere West of Normandy heading out around Brittany etc.



But we do not know if it was the crew that was heard or the 'pirates' or whoever is said to have boarded the ship.



The ship has a transponder, which enables coastal radar stations to track it and all ships carry the same. However it is quite common for the ship's captain to simply switch off the transponder once he's out of crowded waters - past the English Channel - the world's most crowded seaway.



The ship was in the Baltic and my guess is that it's being used by nuke smugglers to take nuke (warhead fuel) to somewhere in North Africa from whence etc.



Okay, so this next cut and paste has nothing to do with the above, but it gives you some idea of what might be going on.



"WASHINGTON (AP) -- Republic of Georgia authorities, aided by the CIA, set up a sting operation last summer that led to the arrest of a Russian man who tried to sell a small amount of nuclear-bomb grade uranium in a plastic bag in his jacket pocket, U.S. and Georgian officials.



Sorry, don't have a date for the above. . . .



I'm with the nuke smuggling theory.



Russian Mafia

Disaffected Russian Generals



Putin is still on Holiday - the cat's away, the mice will play etc.
United at the rear
2009-08-16 03:50:17 UTC
Misinformation and dirty tricks abound, was there any greenpeace boats patrolling the area prior to loosing radio contact? As far as i know Finland and Sweden and Norway have no nuclear power plants. Maybe it was carrying spent fuel rods from Russia (undercutting) due for England before carrying onto Algeria but Greenpeace were onto them so a rouse was deployed to avoid any international conflict. They might have turned the transponder off and changed the livery before heading into the Irish sea. The Russian navy might be out to ensure any damage control was instigated should the rods containment fail.
Robert David M
2009-08-17 20:37:39 UTC
If Ian Fleming were here, he'd probably have a darned good guess.

Yes, It's a truly Bondian ploy as a novel's opening.

And there sure as heck wasn't timber only aboard the vessel.

Not with that Russian reaction.
"The Mock Race See" why cant you see?
2009-08-16 05:25:07 UTC
Haha Foxy good one I like the 'something else'



If Russia is spending a lot of time searching for it you can bet your Bottom Dollar it aint a million worth of Planks of wood



Perhaps its the Missing Billions that the Real Pirates have swindled out of us
anonymous
2009-08-16 10:11:48 UTC
What is the betting that the Russian Special Forces have regained control of the ship!
old grumpy
2009-08-16 03:47:18 UTC
All I can say on this matter Foxy, is that if the Russians are interested in this vessel, than take it from me its cargo is more than timber.You wouldn't get the Russian Navy looking for wood, they got more of that than anyone else.

Very interesting.
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The Patriot
2009-08-16 06:51:33 UTC
Yes, but then so does the Polonium murder plot.



In fact, Putin is like a James Bond villain. The ex-head of the KGB taking power in elections after a series of mysterious terror attacks?
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STEPHEN S
2009-08-16 03:39:28 UTC
These sophisticated and highly intelligent thieves do not care about the value of the cargo my friend. This crime is of kidnapping (crew), and blackmail (owners). Salvage of the vehicle,and human life,are the trading tools of these unscrupulous and lethal thugs!
flint
2009-08-16 05:53:00 UTC
I am sure that it's carrying more than timber, but what I wouldn't like to say. You can bet your bottom dollar it's something nasty that the "pirates" knew about.
mark the spark
2009-08-16 03:36:31 UTC
im sure some spy Satellite knows where it is

failing that try google earth


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