UK: for anyone tempted to support the BNP; don't these remarks by BNP leaders deter you?

Question

Nick Griffin: got nine-month suspended prison sentence at Harrow Crown Court in May 1998 for inciting racial hatred in his magazine, The Rune. Elected leader of BNP in 1999

ON RACE “Without the White race, nothing matters. We affirm that non-Whites have no place here at all and will not rest until every last one has left our land”

ON THE HOLOCAUST “The ‘extermination’ tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie and latter witch-hysteria”

ON POWER “When the crunch comes, power is the product of force and will, not of rational debate.'

MARK COLLETT
Former chairman of the Young BNP, now the party’s director of publicity.

ON WINSTON CHURCHILL “Churchill was a f****** c*** who led us into a pointless war with other whites standing up for their race.”

ON WHETHER BRITISH-BORN BLACKS ARE BRITISH “Just because a dog is brought up in a stable doesn’t make him a horse.”

ON AIDS: ' A friendly disease because blacks, drug users and gays have it.”

ON JEWS “There’s not a European country the Jews haven’t been thrown out of. When it happens that many times, it’s not just persecution. There’s no smoke without fire.”

ON ADOLF HITLER “Hitler will live forever; and maybe I will.”


sources: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article633579.ece
http://www.whatnextjournal.co.uk/Pages/Latest/BNP2.html

Answer 1

I agree with what they say so i will be voting for them. But then how many labour members are criminals, even murderers. The labour government has committed crimes against the entire country, blacks and whites. At least the BNP are exist only for the benefit of Great Britain and its people whereas all the other parties exist only to make their members rich.

Answer 2

The BNP do not hate jewish people, in fact they have at least one Jewish councillor. Most of the leading political figures in the labour government in their younger years used to be Communists, and publicly expressed support for tyrants such as gadaffe and Brezhnev. Communists states were responsible for killing about 110 million people in the twentieth century.Which is more than the 38 million battle dead killed in the two world wars.

Yes the BNP does attract some nutters, however the bulk of the people in the BNP are just people who are riled up about immigration. And as a result of government legislation the media can only ever depict the BNP in a negative way. A while ago when the SNP and Plaid Cymru first started out, they were a bunch of crazies who were regarded as extremists,which indeed they were. However as the parties grew the radical element was diluted, and now they are a major political force.

Answer 3

i dont advocate the bnp,neo nazi party or any other fringe lunatics and most definitely not the muslim fanatical brigade in the UK,

but i can understand the frustration of the brits indigenous population about why this and previous goverments are impervious to the british peoples wish to curb uncontrolled immigration,the people i am afraid get the government they deserve they vote them in and the gov then totally ignores their own manifesto and the will of the voters who put them there ,this two party system is a "blot"on the landscape and should have been dumped years ago,but neither tory or labour want a true democracy,and their behaviour is forcing people to turn to people like Nick Griffin,just as the Germans turned to Hitler in the 1930,s,as an historian i fear you are a total,complete *****LE,,READ DIFFERENT BOOKS,you certainly wont live for ever and neither will I

Answer 4

I think we need to be very wary of the BNP. Britain needs backbone but not the BNP. What is worrying though, is that they are on the increase amongst young middle class families.



(perhaps I should change the name whatnext? I don't want to be associated with Marxism)

Answer 5

Don't believe everything you read in the controlled propaganda media, the BNP might be tough on immigration, but apart from that they have some great policies, and i believe would do this country a huge favour because they are not globalists.

Answer 6

Their eurosceptical policies such as keeping imperial units and dismissing any thought of the Euro is interesting. Though a tad too extreme in other aspects. Their Law and Order policy is basically my view on the subject.



'The BNP will crack down on crime and restore public safety and confidence. We will free the police and courts from the politically correct straitjacket that is stopping them from doing their job properly. The liberal fixation with the ‘rights’ of criminals must be replaced by concern for the rights of victims, and the right of innocent people not to become victims. We support the re-introduction of corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals, and the restoration of capital punishment for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers as an option for judges in cases where their guilt is proven beyond dispute, as by DNA evidence or being caught red-handed.'



And a few other tidbits here and there.



HOWEVER, even reading through their list of policies sounds far too many alarm bells for me. Economically the anti-capitalist, but also anti-communist 'third way' isn't something I agree with at all. The far right has never been good at international affairs either.



Oh yeah the other thing... White supremacy. I would NEVER vote for any party that markets them self as any sort of proponent of racism. I highly doubt their 'friendly relocation of other races' would actually take place, it would probably be something far worse.



So no unless they fundamentally changed a significant number of their core policies to be less extreme I wouldn't vote for them. Being a non-mainstream party I don't see that as likely.



Meanwhile, could someone please create a party way less liber... I mean 'centrist' than the current Tory norm, but a lot less extreme than the BNP? Please?

Answer 7

you can understand why people turn to more extreme parties in the current economic climate with people using immigration as a scapegoat, similarly as Hitler did vs the Jews. I, myself, believe that the current immigration policy is dreadful and many of my friends are of asian origin. Some of the policies seem good when you view their website, but when you see the ignorance of their leaders, you realise what the party truly stands for. I'm sorry but i study history at a level and as far as i'm concerned anybody who denies that the holocaust didn't happen is an absolute moron.

Answer 8

It's a very good question that you wrote, but I think you answered it for yourself. However, I like to think there is a little bit of good in everybody no matter who they are, because I know people that never gave up on me in my darkest hours. Whilst they are on here trying to convert people to the BNP, they are not on the streets doing worse things.



SID..... do you advocate violence to achieve you aims? And would you accept this as a valid link that shows the BNP's 12 worst councillors in England?

http://libcom.org/news/article.php/rubbish-bnp-councillors-100406



OK Sid, point taken. I didn't actually mean you personally, but more of a collective, the BNP generally that's all. The facts on that page are still true though, and you don't have to look far on the internet to substantiate it. BNP councillors not bothering to turn up for council meetings, BNP councillors in trouble for scrapping, BNP councillors in trouble for benefits fraud, BNP councillors promising to change things but not actually bothering to change anything after being elected. It's very big list for such a small party don't you think? It just sounds like any other party to me milking the system and bending the rules to suit them greedy selves.

Answer 9

not an appetising bunch by any means



but the labour party plans to engineer it so that more minority candidates are given safe seats to get more into parliament....and we know how devisive the actions of some of these have been recently....lord ahmed and his threats against london if wilders was allowed in....and his mates supporting his ludicrously short sentence for dangerous driving and killing someone...



i wonder what the middle ground is .....?

i certainly do not agree with labour and their immigration and appeasement policies are creating a nightmare for many british people in english cities



and as an added thought...many of these minority MPs have constituents who also deny the holocaust and rever hitler and celebrate his plans for the jews.......i have never heard of hitler being idolised so much as i have since encountering many muslim users of yahoo

Answer 10

Yea if they ever get into power it wouldbe the next world war and this time the human race would be finished. They are a party consisting of bigots, who's views do no represent 99% of the population (thank f u c k).



It's a shame but there will always be ignorant arseholes in this world such as members of the British Nazi Party. However I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it. They'll never get into power.

Answer 11

No amount of rational logic will deter those who support the BNP

Answer 12

Winston Churchill used to privately refer to the Indian army as wogs. He also wanted to turn the machine guns on the hunger marchers. He had a burning hatred toward Islam and made no secret of it. I suppose now you'd be calling him a murdering b@stard and a racist.....instead of a hero? the BBC were fined for using the cutting room to make the British national party look like thugs. Clearly not all you see and read is true.

Answer 13

Thanks for all your remarks re: the BNP, but as I pointed out before the vast majority of people in this country are fed up with the mass immigration policy, they can be heard every day voicing their discontent and most of them don't support BNP, are they all racists and thugs too?

Answer 14

The Whatnextjournal is a Marxist discussion paper, so hardly an unbiased source.



The Times Online has not indicated a source or an author, so it is non-referenced.



So sorry (not) to see how the Left have their backs against the wall - they really are sweating to see how the BNP are on the rise. Hence all the name-calling. They have no solid argument to say in favour of their ideologies.



Jedi: Of course I do NOT advocate violence to achieve my aims. Have I not always promoted rational and intellectual debate, and the electoral process? It is a shame that some others here, of the anti-bnp persuasion, cannot see as far as to do the same.



As for your link, it would seem to be yet another diatribe of unsubstantiated waffle. Their link to 'stop the BNP' does give it away. Anybody can set up a website nowadays. I think most people realize the pitfalls of believing everything you read, that is why I advocate talking to the BNP personally.

Answer 15

I sometimes wonder why they hate the Jewish people so much, and am wondering if it is because then they dont have to think about God, and the ten commandments as they originated with the Jews.

Answer 16

Wow... I wasn't even contemplating voting for them anyway, but that is certainly interesting reading!

Answer 17

98%

Answer 18

It's no surprise.



The BNP are Nazis.





That is a well known fact.

Answer 19

If you look at any political party you will find any number of politico,s who have said things that have been quoted out of context

Answer 20

So in that case everything written in a Newspaper is true is it?

Why not listen to what real members of the BNP say or is that a little difficult to understand.

http://bnp.org.uk/about-us/mission-statement/

You are playing right into the hands of those that would cause the destruction of Britain how that would benefit yourself i have not figured yet but i will!

Answer 21

You're quite right; they are a sad collective of the stupid led by the insane.



Just as well that their gibbering racism and general idiocy will ensure they remain no more than a festering boil on the **** of the body politic.

Answer 22

Cool.

Ja.

Answer 23

i wish they would try and say these things in Birmingham or Bradford or somewhere...it would end them =)

Answer 24

(((Paperback!)))



The British National Party is a racist and facist party. Why anyone would join is a complete surprise to me.

Answer 25

Yeah they're idiots alright

Answer 26

they are wolves in sheeps clothing evil racists nothing more nothing less i will never be fooled by them